<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>The email seems to have lost some of the formatting in transit - refer to the word doc that was attached for the structure.<br></span></div><div> </div><div>--<br>Regards,</div><div><br><br></div><div>Michael Cole<br></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, 7 December 2013 7:18 PM, Michael Cole <mcole222@yahoo.com.au> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0720518479"><div><div
style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">I have attached a language tree for Middle Earth. Defaults will be at -2 (skill, which translates to -1 level) per sideways, upwards or downwards link, although nothing will default past level 2 - i.e., Dwarvish does not default nor will it default to anything else.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">To make it easier, below is an edited list showing what common languages are around the general region: -<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
<ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="disc"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Beast
Speech</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="circle"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">(Various
variants – birds, snakes, wolves etc)</li></ul><ul><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Valarin</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="circle"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Aulean</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="square"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Khuzdul (Dwarvish)</b></li></ul><ul><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Melkorean</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="square"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Dragonspeech</b></li><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Orcish Dialects & Black Speech</b></li></ul><ul><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Oromean</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="square"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Quendian</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="disc"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Avarin</li></ul>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:162.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Hildorin </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:198.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Lintadorin </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:234.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Old Mágo </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:270.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><span style="font-weight:bold;">Adûnaic</span> </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:306.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;"> </span><span style="font:7.0pt;"></span></span></span><b style="">Westron </b></div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:234.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Eriedaic </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:270.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt;"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style=""><span style="font:7.0pt;"></span></span></span>Foradanin or Fornen </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:306.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Old Rhovanian </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:342.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Atliduk</b>
(Beijabar)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:342.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Aivathiudan </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:378.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Éothric</b>
(Eothraim)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:378.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>New Rhovanian </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:414.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Delsk </b>(Dalish)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:414.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Lossanan (Lossoth)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:342.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Gramiska</b>
(Gramuz)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:342.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Nahaiduk</b>
(Woodman)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:342.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Neneduk</b>
(Lakeman)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:234.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Arhûnerin </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:270.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Baradhrin </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:306.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Bórian </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:342.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Angmarian
</b>(Angmar)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:306.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Uldorian </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:342.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Szreldorn</b>
(Dorwinrim)</div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:198.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Aravadorin </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:234.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Wingdings;"><span style="">§<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Talatherin </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:270.0pt;"><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style="">·<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Ioradja </div>
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:306.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Asdraja</b>
(Asdriags)</div><span style="font-family:Symbol;"><span style=""><span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab">
<span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab"> <span class="yiv0720518479tab">
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span>·<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span>Ulgathig
<div class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="margin-left:306.0pt;"><span style=""><span style="">o<span style="font:7.0pt;">
</span></span></span><b style="">Logathig</b>
(Logath and Sagath)</div>
<ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="disc"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Eldarin</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="circle"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Common
Telerin</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="square"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Nandorin</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="disc"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="">Hawnin</span> </span>(Southern
Gondor)</li><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Silvan</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="circle"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Bethtaur </b>(Lorinand (Lorien)
Silvan)</li><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Tawaren </b>(Mirkwood Silvan)</li><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><span style="font-weight:bold;"><span style="">Uialarin </span></span>(Snow Elves of the
Forodwaith)</li></ul><ul><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Sindarin</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="disc"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Gondorian Sindarin </b>(Gondor)</li><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Noldorin Sindarin</b>
(Eregion/Lorien)</li><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">North Sindarin</b><b style=""> (Mithrim) </b>(Grey Havens)</li></ul><ul><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style="">Quenya
(High Elvish)</li></ul><ul style="margin-top:0cm;" type="square"><li class="yiv0720518479MsoNormal" style=""><b style="">Noldorin Quenya</b></li></ul><div><span><br clear="none"></span></div><div> So to answer your question Mirkwood Silvan to Noldorian Sindarin would be at -8, or -4 levels. Native in one would give you professional in the other. Professional in one would give you broken in the other. They are not that close.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">A closer relationship would be Delsk to Eothric, which would be -4 (-2 levels). Beijabar to Nenedik (Lakeman) or Gramiska (Gramuz) would be only -2 (-1 level)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>--<br clear="none">Regards,</div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div>Michael Cole<br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv0720518479yqt2087244180" id="yiv0720518479yqt73091"><div class="yiv0720518479yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <br clear="none">
<br clear="none"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Saturday, 7 December 2013 5:33 PM, Lev Lafayette <lev@rpgreview.net> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <div class="yiv0720518479y_msg_container">On Sat, December 7, 2013 3:35 pm, Michael Cole wrote:<br clear="none">> And in terms of Languages, I am going to assume that all of you have both<br clear="none">> your native language and Westron (Latin) as a default at Language 10 level<br clear="none">> - no points will need to be spent on these. Only if you want other<br clear="none">> languages will you need to buy them, and as mentioned above, writing will<br clear="none">> also need to
be bought.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Are there other defaults for languages? e.g., does Sylvan Elvish default<br clear="none">from Sindarian
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