[HQ Ignorance] Re : Re : Scene 50: Anzhur's HeroQuest: The Conversion of the Seshnelans

[Loran]

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De : Lev Lafayette <lev_lafayette at yahoo.com.au>
À : HeroQuest Glorantha <ignorance at mimesisrpg.com>
Envoyé le : Mercredi, 23 Janvier 2008, 10h02mn 54s
Objet : Re: [HQ Ignorance] Re : Scene 50: Anzhur's HeroQuest: The Conversion of the Seshnelans


--- Loran <aillet_l at yahoo.fr> wrote:

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> > 6. For counter attacks in the debate
> > - Combative 17 (+2) (debate, debate, debate again)
> > - Intrepid 18 (+2) (be bold with a vision)
> > - Brave 17 (+2) (Not being impressed by any argument
> > or threat)
> > - Try Harder 17 (+2) (If one argument doesn't work,
> > try an other one)
> 
> I'm not entirely convinced that all of these can be
> used simultaneously. 'Brave' is a synonym of Intreprid
> 'Try Harder' would certainly be the same as
> 'Combative'.

Yes, Brave and Intrepid are very-near. In french, this words don't have the exact same meanings (but this is very often, synonyms can take differents meanings depending of the rest of the sentence).  For exemple you can't resist pain by being 'Intrepid', but just by being 'Brave'. I don't know if this work also in english.

To me, 'Brave' is a moral passive attitude, 'Intrepid' is a more active behavior... but your the GM. 'Intrepid' makes you take risks, 'Brave' makes you endure the consequencies...

It is perhaps more clear for 'Combative' and 'Try Harder', but of course you're rigth they are very near in this case. To me, 'Combative' is an offensive energy and 'Try Harder' is a reaction in front of possible failure. You can't be 'Combative' while crafting something, because there is no competion, but you can still try harder...

You're the GM, you decide, but the problem will come again in the future, If we ban synonyms uses, may I stack all the HP spent on one choice
'Brave' 17 and 'Intrepid' 18 becoming 'Brave or Intrepid' at 2W
And 
'Combative' 17 and 'Try Harder' 17 becoming 'Combative or Try Harder' at 1W

These skills come from different keywords, I don't know how the official rules regulate this point (personnaly in my games, I accept all synonyms if you have it on your sheet, so you can have a 'brave-courageous-intrepid' augment)

Your decision, whatever it will be (even refuse everything), is accepted of course.

> > 7. When marking or loosing points
> >  - Honorable 17 (+2) (don't lose face when
> > countered)
> > - Charitable 17 (+2) (don't dimish adversaries when
> > winning)
> 
> These may contradict combative; you may wish to
> consider dropping that and using these instead (bigger
> bonus).

You can be 'Honorable' and 'Combative', I think.
But right, 'Charitable' and 'Combative' tend to substract themselve when mix together, however the debate will last quite long. Isn't it possible to be combative at the begining and charitable at the end ?

> > 8. Various supports:
> > - Othor's Support Master in Battle 3W1 (+2) (this is
> > not a really battle, but even at -5, it is still a
> > +2)
> 
> Er, no. Nice try , remind me of Mr. Puma and playing
> the harp.

Very vaguely, could you tell me the HQ rules page ?
Then could he use his 'Gossip' to disturb the adversary ?

Thanks for considering theses points and giving me your final decison.
Thanks
Loran


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