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>From: Lev Lafayette [lev@rpgreview.net]<br>
>Sent: 7/21/2010 9:08:42 PM<br>
>To: krononauts@mimesisrpg.com<br>
>Subject: Re: [Krononauts] new timeline help wanted.<br>
><br>
>On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:14 -0700, Carl Brown wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> >Not really. Just the Soviets don't really have Eastern Europe, the<br>
>> USA<br>
>> >doesn't really have Western Europe; and although there would be no<br>
>> >massive end-of-war destruction, likewise there would be no COMECON or<br>
>> >Marshall Plan.<br>
>> Right, errr what's a Marshall Plan.? COMECON? You can see why I tend<br>
>> to prehistory adventures. To Google...<br>
>> <br>
><br>
>Or to Wikipedia :)<br>
><br>
>Basically the Marshall Plan was the United States giving Western Europe<br>
>a bucket load of money to rebuild the economies, which worked but it<br>
>also meant that these economies had to pay the money back - with<br>
>interest (Germany paid back its debt by 1971). So it provided the United<br>
>States a great deal of political and economic leverage. Without it the<br>
>US wouldn't be as strong... <br>
><br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan<br>
><br>
>As for COMECON it was sort of a Soviet equivalent. Under Stalin it was<br>
>more about keeping the satellite nations out of the Marshall Plan. Under<br>
>Brezhnev is was more about co-ordination of 5-year plans in an<br>
>integrated manner.<br>
><br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COMECON<br>
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Thanks<br>
><br>
>> Is the threat of a super weapon considered here? Do we have to invent<br>
>> the A-bomb and use it?<br>
><br>
>I actually don't know whether it would be needed. Japan would be feeling<br>
>very lonely if Nazi Germany surrendered.<br>
<br>
opposite land to the last timeline<br>
><br>
>> >> What about culture and technology?<br>
>> ><br>
>> >Interestingly I think Eastern Europe would more influential than<br>
>> Western<br>
>> >Europe in this regard because of their stronger independence and<br>
>> mutual<br>
>> >aid among each other.<br>
>> <br>
>> Latest fashions from Warsaw?<br>
><br>
>And Prague, Budapest, Bucharest etc.<br>
><br>
>> He was a pragmatic fanatic willing to kow-tow to anyone who had the<br>
>> resourses to pursue his dream of flights to the Moon and planets. He<br>
>> may not have been able to lure as many other scientists to come with<br>
>> him.<br>
><br>
>Hmmm.. Very tricky. I don't know whether there would be much impetus for<br>
>a space race as the political balance would be geared away from two<br>
>large superpowers, into several smaller blocs (Anglophone, West Europe,<br>
>East Europe, Soviet Union, China). <br>
ok a frustrated Von Braun as a US citizen with a reputation as a crackpot. Global retarded space development. We make ICBM's but don't push for the moon.<br>
><br>
>> >Either Franco and Salazar would reform (as suggested) or there very<br>
>> well<br>
>> >may be a war between various western European countries and the<br>
>> United<br>
>> >States!<br>
>> <br>
>> Which is more likely?<br>
><br>
>I think the reform would be more likely.<br>
><br>
>> So this Salazar he's a wizard right?<br>
><br>
>A very strong Catholic and semi-fascist dictator of Portugal.<br>
<br>
Like I said a wizard, fond of arcane ritual, of the Dark Lord sub-type ;)<br>
><br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_de_Oliveira_Salazar<br>
><br>
>But yeah it's a cool roleplaying name. But so is King Zog!<br>
><br>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zog_of_Albania<br>
<br>
I think Conan took on that guy.<br>
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