[HQ Ignorance] Re : Re : Loskalm Keywords

[Loran]

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De : Julz Dawson <julz at julzdawson.co.uk>

À : HeroQuest Glorantha <ignorance at mimesisrpg.com>

Envoyé le : Mardi, 16 Janvier 2007, 18h20mn 11s

Objet : Re: [HQ Ignorance] Re :   Loskalm Keywords



> Speculation in-line...


Let's say clarification ;-)
 

>> Loran wrote:          Julz,

   >> I agree with your idea, but don't forget that we are still in the malkioni range of civilization.

   >> For exemple obediance seems to be a major trait for western civilizations, beginning with the Brithini.
>> To me, that why Arkat was such a sacrilege.

   
>>
> But surly this is tempered by the certain knowledge that being true to ones conscience is all that
> is required to reach Solace through the "Joy of the Heart". Doing the right thing according to ones
> conscience is paramount even if this goes against the wishes of your lord. This, I think, will be
> especially true in a society that has recently been through a military coup (did I say that, off to
> the comfy chair...). What I'm trying to capture is the idea that all Loskalmi (?) know that they are
> right and that they are superior. They have to, otherwise what they have done is indescribably wicked
> and sinful, and all are dammed.

I see... Saint-Just, a terrible french revolutionary voted for the King's death and said to justify it :
"The King is guilty... or else we are..."
And to me he was right, when Churchill was asked on how he thought that History will judge him... he answered something like "I count to be among those who write History". 


> But no worries, their expression of faith and their system of cast
> mobility is the one and only correct way. It has to be and it is. Those that expressed doubts,
> disappeared during the Ban. Those few unbelievers that are left, are more circumspect...

 
> 
> This double think is, perhaps, one of the causes for The Kingdom of War.  Mass thoughts, even 
> psychotic unconscious ones, tend to have a physical manifestation in Glorantha. 

Ok, I follow you.


       >> Now that where my english betrays me :

>> - Social mobility as an ability ? Could you detail what you mean ?

   
>
> I was trying to put something in there to capture the feeling that Loskolmi will be far more comfortable
> in mixed cast company than those stuffy Seshnelans. After all, every noble has started out as a farmer;
> well, spent some time down on the farm as a kid anyway. Also, every farmer knows that if only he could
> just pass those watch committee tests, he to could be just like that lord. Perhaps something like Feign
> Deference and Talk Common.


Something Like "Mix easily with other Castes" ?

But I still think that this utopian system is certainly also a cheat, as Nick Brooksuggested at this end of his article in http://www.etyries.com/malkioni/idealist.htm
Powerful groups always try to reproduce themselves by any means, that life.

>
>>- Self-Righteous ? Hu... I understand the words but not the meaning

   
>
  > The Loskalmi way is the one true path, we are the only people in the whole world to know this, we
> are all going to Solace, aren't we cleaver.


I told you they were french Ahahah ! (And I'm right because i'm one... ;-)
More seriously, isn't it a little redundant with "Smug" then ?

>> - Evangelical, yes why not

   
>
> Well, thinking about this, perhaps there should be two opposites here reflecting the two social
> movements that have come into existence after the Ban lifted. 

> 'Evangelical' for those that want to go out and spread the word, and 'Isolationist' for those that want
> to ignore the rest of the world.


"Smug" can do it too... you are smug and keep for yourself, you are evangelist and spread it to others

       >> - Smug, I didn't know the word at first, but my dictionnary tells me it's perfect.

   
>
  
> Not so much perfect as self satisfied.

Personnaly I prefer this word, just because I understand it at first glance.

> I know that I'm right and if only you weren't such a stupid foreign, you would know it too. 


;-)
(Did I already speak about France ?)


So here is a new proposal for Loskalmi based on your remarks and what I read in HQ rules :

Loskalm keywords:

---------------------- 

Loskalmi Abilities:

- Assess Class Achievement >>> can become "Mix easely with other castes" (or something else)

- Obey Superior >>> we keep it because malkioni civilizations are hierarchical ones

- Rural Survival 

- Loskalmi Customs

- Loskalmi Geography

- Speak Loskalmi



Typical Personality Traits:

- Fear Dragons >>> because every nation got it

- Obedient >>> become "self-satisfied"

- Pious >>> become "evangelical"



Typical Relationships:

- to Congregation

- to Family

- to Vassal Overlord



Magic:

- Common magic

- New Hrestoli Church (Wizardry)




What do you think about this ?
Do you have remarks for the wide westerner Knight keywords ?

Loran



	

	
		
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