[HQ Ignorance] Re : Scene 50: Anzhur's HeroQuest: The Conversion of the Seshnelans

Thu Jan 24 09:23:46 UTC 2008

Hmmmm...
Perhaps Azhur can train his convincing skills a little with Karala...
"Please Karala see it as a way to change enemies into allies..."

Some points to consider for the obvious and immediate interest of hunshen peoples:
1. Having people of Segurane converted will help to stop the war with elves, helping the elves to concentrate their forces against Theoblanc's vampire followers. I can't think that Karala support Theoblanc's initiatives?

2.It will also help to gain an immediate ally (or at least a diversion) for the telmori in their war against undead army. Does Karala prefer them going alone to war and suffer more loss?

2. Hrestoli men consider women as equal, which is much better than Rokari who see them as an subordinated caste (see the second argument of the HQ) and as a woman, Karala should be sensible to women conditions, no?

3. Karala is part of the fellowship, solidarity or at least interests bargain, may apply, no?

[OOC]
4. We play together, no? The beast became a trollkin, Kalen lost his best friend and Azhur lost his precious faith... why? To save Karala from telmori crazy murderers... Does the words "moral debt" means something for Karala ?

I hope you will help us to integrate better the primitive ways of Hunshen into the fellowship. It is up to you because I don't see why civilized people will have to take a such initiative (exactly for the same reasons you exposed), but Azhur will gladly push then for integration (because equality credo).

Some friendly food for thought
Loran

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Objet : Re: [HQ Ignorance] Scene 50: Anzhur's HeroQuest: The Conversion of the Seshnelans

OOC: ok, Karala is along for the ride & is happy to help out however  
she can. However,  although she has skills useful for persuading  
people (Inspire Others, Charismatic Presence etc) I can't help  
thinking that being both a primative heathen and a woman would ofset  
any advantages she could bring to the table here. She absolutely does  
not (& does not want to) understand the purpose of this Hero Quest...

How is Thaneora doing? Are the Telmori hidden / protected and ready  
to strike at dawn? IIf Segurine is about to fall they will attack  
earlier - Karala can contact Thaneora and Wilkairtha using her  
Reindeer Spirit...

Dougie.

On 19 Jan 2008, at 13:16, Lev Lafayette wrote:

>
> It is written that two centuries ago Pope Mardron
> brought together the Sixth Malkioni Ecclesiatical
> council after Bailifes the Hammer, Duke of Rindland,
> broke the remaining rule of the Old Hrestoli and
> established the Kingdom of Seshnela. With this
> success, the Rokari flourished, claiming that they
> were returning to the original creed of Malkioni
> against the caste mobility as revealed to Prince
> Hrestoli. One may wonder then why they did not simply
> return to the ossified structures of the Brithini in
> Arolanit; this became clear at the Council.
>
> The remainding members of the pre-Hrestoli Loskalm
> were bribed by the new Rokari forces, and voted to
> recognise Rokar was indeed the Third Prophet of
> Malkionism. To the Hrestoli, this was the Blashemy of
> Leplain. To the Rokari, the angelic spirit of Malkioni
> descended upon the Council and made a just and
> righteous decision that Rokar was indeed a True
> Prophet of the invisible God, that Saint Mardron was
> the True Pope.
>
> Just ask Pope Theoblanc, Anzhur thought grimly.
>
> In response to Othor's question, Anzhur, Aarolin* and
> followers used the secret entrance first used by Kalen
> Ironhand [OOC: can people mention if they're following
> here?] and entered the Thrice-Walled City. The
> darkness enveloped them, as it did with Kalen. By his
> reckoning, the most appropriate Quest to embark upon
> would be the meeting of Hrestol and the meeting with
> the old Malkioni faith; after all, it was the Rokari
> claim that they were closest to the old ways, and the
> very conservative (but desparate) Aaronlinit would be
> an ideal subject. Regrettably, Anzhur thought, there
> was insufficient time for a full Practice Quest, but
> at the very least he hoped to able to engage in a
> communication ritual.
>
> But in the darkness they stumbled about, lacking the
> innate senses of the Mostal stone people. The loyal
> Othor heard and noise and informed his lord of the
> presence of others and Anzhur begged silence among
> those present: it was the sound of the grinding of
> metal upon stone, the sounds of pattering and of
> movement which moved closer and closer. In
> desparation, Anzhur searched upon the walls and found
> the tiny charred remains of an old torch, which he lit
> as quickly as possible.
>
> Like with Kalen, the Bazak had come out in force.
> Numerous, but thin, they could represent some
> challenge if diplomacy went badly. Anzhur had no
> desire to let this happen and from what he had been
> told, the Bazak were led by one most cordial. A
> particularly well-groomed Bazak moved to the front of
> the pack and raised himself on his hind paws.
>
> "I assume you are a companion of the stone man. A
> messanger was released with agreement to our terms. We
> would remove the King, Guilmarn The Fat, and provision
> would be made for a seasonal supply of deer and
> protection for our kind once the city was yours. Well,
> we have completed our side of the bargain. A single
> sudden strike with even the greatest force would
> indeed be prevented by the magics of the former King.
> But not a horde of gnawing teeth", whereupon the Bazak
> smiled, bearing his bloody teeth; disconcertingly the
> others followed suit, and proved they too had
> participated in the assasination.
>
> "It was quick, but far from painless", the Bazak
> continued. "There is something from his chambers which
> you may be interested in", and with that the sound of
> metal dragged upon stone came from beyond the meagre
> torchlight. Four bazaks each came forth bearing a
> crown, a sword and a sceptre; symbols of the King of
> Seshnela and representing the three high castes of the
> land. Othor took the items on Anzhur's behalf. King of
> Seshnela! thought Anzhur momentarily, before realising
> what such a title currently would entail.
>
> "Follow us for the way to the King's Tower" said the
> Bazak.  With Rotterex the Bazak leading Anzhur's party
> followed into the Tower (see description in Kalen's
> travels in this building**).  Eventually the made it
> to the top; the King's Tower overlooked the entire
> Thrice Walled City. Here was the location that Anzhur
> would engage in his HeroQuest.
>
> The first station, Anzhur thought, would be to contact
> the Battle Seers in hope to gain community support.
> But the defensive magics exited here against such
> things and even if it did succeed the support that the
> Battle Seers could offer (p91) would be hampered by
> the enormous distances their magic would have to
> travel (p100). Anzhur gave up on that idea.
>
> The second station, was to provide sufficient magics
> so that their voices could be heard by all within the
> Thrice Walled City. [This requires a contest against a
> resistance of 14, roll of 3 (ouch!), but with a
> modifier of -15].
>
> In the third station, Aarolin will tell his tale
> confirming that an army led by Vampires has fallen
> upon the Southern Army of the Kingdom of Seshnela.
> [This seems reasonable itself, so only a resistance of
> 14, roll 13. To add additional information 'So we must
> ally with the Telmori' is worth a modifier of -5, 'We
> must ally with the Aldryami is worth -10, and 'The
> Vampire Army is led by Theoblanc' is worth -20,
> cumulative so "We must ally with the Telmori and the
> Aldryami against Theoblanc" is woth -30.].
>
> The fourth station, is to establish the HeroQuest and
> to contact the imbue the Essence of Malkion. [This
> requires a contest 'Cross over to the Other Side',
> (p197). The resistance is 10W3, roll 12. However the
> appropriate location will give a bonus of +5 to this
> attempt and the items will give another +5]. Success
> will cause Anzhur to glow with the purest white and
> speak with an angelic voice, giving him a +5 bonus to
> the arguments in the HeroQuest.
>
> Once imbued with the Essence of Malkion, Anzhur can
> act out the role of Prince Hrestol converting the
> conservative sect member, played out by Aarolin. This
> will consist of four arguments [Each success will give
> a +3 bonus to the next argument, each loss a -3
> argument].
>
> The first argument by Aarolin is that there can be no
> mobility between castes. One God, One Church, One
> King, One Peace. God gave birth to man within their
> caste and within that caste they must live. To go
> against the caste that one was born in will lead to
> failure to reach Solace in that station and result in
> chaos; as witnessed by the Kingdom of War in lands of
> the Hrestoli. [This is largely agreed to by the
> Wizards and Knights present (obviously) and they would
> be very resistant to any threat to their power;
> resistance 20W, roll 18]
>
> The second argument by Aarolin is that women are
> physically and spiritually weaker than men, and are
> especially prone to devilish influences. This is
> proven by the leadership of the cult of the Deceiver,
> Gbaji, who were often women. Besides, a woman's word
> is not to be trusted, as they always change their
> mind. Women are only fit to obtain Salvation as Nobles
> or Peasants, never Wizards or Knights. [There is only
> some reluctance to this proposal; after all some of
> those present are women who only believe the doctrine
> half at best; resistance 5W, roll 3 (ouch again!)]
>
> The third argument by Aarolin is that Sin leads to
> hell and damnation. Heretics and pagans alike find
> themselves in Hell, which includes tappers,
> caste-breakers, and sexual deviants for all eternity.
> Sin is breaking the laws of Malkion as revealed by
> Rokar. It includes breaking the castes, tapping,
> impure thoughts, theft, adultery, falsehood,
> drunkenness, gluttony, immortality spells, heretical
> thoughts, envy, slander, avarice, inane speech,
> indecency, and arguing with a priest or your lord.
> [The resistance strength of this argument is quite
> weak; most of those present have engaged in some of
> the above some of the time and would dearly love to
> hear an argument that would release them from the
> threat of eternal damnation; resistance 14, roll 15]
>
> The final argument of Aarolin is that proof of Rokar's
> divine recognition comes from the miracle of his
> trial. When captured by the Church, he was burned at
> the stake, but when the flames reached their height,
> the holy messangers of Solace and Joy came from the
> sky and took him to the Creator. [The resistance to
> this is strong as everyone in Seshnela believe this
> occurred; resistance 20W, roll 6].
>
> Now, by playing the role of Prince Hrestol confronting
> an orthodox Brithini, Anzhur can counter each and
> every one of those arguments successfully, he'll
> engage on one of the most successful mass conversions
> in the history of Glorantha!
>
>
> * Yes, the closeness of his name to the Brithini
> Kingdom of Arolanit is not mere coincidence.
> ** See: In the Chamber of the Broken King
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